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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:24:40 -0400 (EDT)
Greetings from the land of Opal (though, never fear, I am unscathed,
despite my abrupt need to use an air-sick bag in a bumpy helicopter).
This is sort of outdated by now, but I didn't want to pass up the
opportunity to note that it's been officially 10 years, and I guess a
month or two, since _Suzanne Vega_ hit the stores. I just want to take
the chance to congratulate Suzanne on her first decade as a recorded
entity -- and, certainly, wish her luck in the many, many subsequent
decades that are sure to follow.
I guess it's the classic question (not to Suzanne, to everyone else): do
you remember where you were when you first heard her? For me it was a few
minutes after midnight, September 25, 1985 -- my 20th birthday -- standing
in my dorm room on the third floor of Beam Hall at Penn State when "Small
Blue Thing" came out over the airwaves from WPSU. I remember it like I'm
still standing there. The world was blue-green for some reason. I think a
fan was going. I'm not going to claim that the cosmos stopped or anything
but I think _I_ did; I'd read about Suzanne a few weeks earlier and was
asking myself "Is this it? Is this her? I have to get this."
The next day a coworker at the student newspaper played a compilation tape
that included "Marlene on the Wall," which I didn't like quite as much but
kept me interested.
A few days later I went hunting through record stores looking for it. I
finally found one that had one copy. Back then LPs were still a big deal
(I wish I'd bought it in vinyl but I had no way to play it) and the few
cassettes this one store sold were locked behind glass; as the clerk
unlocked the case to retrieve the tape she said "We've had a lot of
people asking for this one." I took it home, listened to it, didn't get
everything the first time but knew I'd found something wonderful,
something that maybe I'd been looking for a long time without knowing
what for.
That whole year, certainly that whole semester, was colored by that album;
it's the soundtrack I hear when I think back to that time. (It helped that
it was only one of three albums I bought that entire year, being cash-poor
as I was). For instance, the next spring I really, really fell in love for
the first time (yes, call me a late bloomer) and wrote in my diary: "I
want to love a young woman who I don't understand. Your highness, your
ways are very strange."
My enthusiasm was far from universally shared, however. I tried to
explain to my roommate what Suzanne sounded like; the only thing I could
come up with, "urban folk," drew this look of bemused compassion from
him, sort of like "God, it must be terrible to be such a dork." One
friend of mine used to discount any musical opinion I held by saying,
"Yeah, but _you_ like Suzanne Vega." (This from a guy who thought Dream
Academy was the next Pink Floyd.) If you're thinking that I really needed
some new friends -- yeah, that's the conclusion I reached too.
One remarkable thing about that album is that it became one of my
favorites of all time the minute I heard it, and that it still is 10 years
later. That's rare; most of my favorite albums are ones that took a while
to grow on me (like, say, anything by R.E.M.). Others that immediately
appealed to me faded after time, either because my tastes changed or
because their appeal was all on the surface; that's certainly not true of
_SV_.
It also might be the only album that I still listen to regularly after so
many years just for the enjoyment of it. (In contrast, it's been a while
since I listened to, say, the White Album in its entirety. It's an
all-time masterpiece, of course, by any objective standard more pivotal to
musical history than Suzanne's debut, probably, but these days it's not
usually what I'm in the mood for). I'm still not tired of it; I'm still
discovering new things. My latest trick is to listen to it and _99.9F_
back to back and notice how similar they are.
Am I babbling? Yes. I just wanted to thank Suzanne for the last decade,
or at least the role she's played in it. (I won't hold her accountable
for Newt Gingrich, never fear.)
Most exciting of all -- the news she's heading back into the studio! Yes!
I can hardly wait.
-- Bob, no longer elusive, just incoherent
P.S. I think I've been missing out on messages too. I didn't get anything
for a couple of weeks, then this latest feud jumps out from nowhere. All
I can say to the combatants -- shouldna lept in front o' the bairn, lad!
>I guess it's the classic question (not to Suzanne, to everyone else): do
I'm embarrassed to say, but for me it was studying for finals in 1986 with
*MTV* playing as background noise. I was taking a break when "Marlene on
the Wall" came on. The first few seconds of the song sent me scrambling
for a pen so that I could write down the artist at the end of the video --
that kind of immediate reaction had never happened to me before. I soon
had her LP and listened to the album I don't know how many times on my
walkman (surely hundreds) over the next few years.
The _Suzanne Vega_ album is still my favorite because (to me) the songs
seem entwined with a sad, detached abstraction -- a feeling like there's
something bigger behind the lyrics that language just can't express.
>Most exciting of all -- the news she's heading back into the studio! Yes!
Great news!
__________________________________________________________________
Hello everyone,
There was a thread along these lines awhile back; sounds like a candidate
for archiving! Someone in rec.music.rem is accumulating a similar list for
R.E.M, and it's really fascinating to read - quite a variety of experiences.
I think I posted this sometime back, but here it is again:
Around summer 1986, I was listening to a Sunday night program on the radio
in Austin, TX. The incomparable dj, Jody Denberg, always featured an
eclectic mix of 'critic's choice' stuff - indie, 'alternative' (before it
was called that, etc.). Towards the end of the program, he closed with
quieter, acoustic-based material. Driving home near midnight, I happened
to catch 'Small Blue Thing' - needless to say, I was blown away. I think
what came through was the *intensity* of the music and lyrics through both
*repetition* and *sparseness* of arrangement - something that Suzanne does
very well on a consistent basis! I think 'detached abstraction' is a good
way to put it, but it's more than that.
Well, of course I went out and got the album, and since then, have seen
her twice in concert (missed the 1985 show at the Cactus Cafe - capacity
only around 100-150...damn...), bought everything I can get my hands on, etc.
Looking forward to the new material, and the new 'old' material,
-Rob
Hello everyone,
Just wanted to throw in my "first time" experience hearing Suzanne. I can't
remember the year -- it probably was in '86 or '87.
It was a weekend morning, and I had to wake up decently early, for one crazy
reason or another. My radio alarm was set to WNEW-FM in New York. At that
time, Pete Fornatelle (spelling's probably wrong), used to have his "mixed
bag" show where he played cool stuff, especially folk-rock artist.
Well, that morning, he played "undertow" and I was taken by Suzanne's
beautiful voice. Been a fan ever since :).
--David
Robert King
>I guess it's the classic question (not to Suzanne, to everyone else): do
like it was yesterday. autumn of 1985. i was laying on the floor of my
bedroom listening to whrw (binghamton university's radio station). the
world was infinitely grey (funny how both bob and i associate colors
with these memories). someone played "the queen and the soldier" and i
was floored (ha ha). while listening, everything went blank and i felt
completely engulfed by the music and words.
the next day, i found a cassette copy of the album which i still have
and listen to, even through the song titles are worn off. as with bob,
it became the soundtrack of my life, along with KaTe bush's hounds of
love, for tht year and the next few. every song *clicked*, though
"cracking," by far, was the one i identified with most closely. still
do, in fact.
>For instance, the next spring I really, really fell in love for
this is getting weirder. i didn't write that in my diary (didn't have a
diary to write in), but the same thing happened to me: fell in love for
the first time, associated those lines with the feelings i felt, and
integrated the album very much into that relationship. so much so that
i couldn't listen to the album for at least a year after said
relationship went sour. the fact that i could listen to it again was a
measure of my healing.
as with bob, it's an album that i liked from the start and continue to
like to this day.
woj
It was July '85 ... around my thirteenth birthday, believe it or not. Tuned
in MTV one afternoon, halfway through the Marlene on the Wall video,
waited esctatically for the artist to show up in the lower-left corner in
the screen, and I was hooked. I had just heard Sting's "Dream of the
Blue Turtles" album, and could see a definite parallel between "Marlene"
and some of the songs on the second side of that album, especially
"Consider Me Gone." Could "derStingel" have been influenced by his A&M
labelmate? Think so...
I didn't really get into buying albums till I was a sophomore in high
school. ('87-'88) Solitude Standing was, of course, a big album around
this time, but while I liked "Luka" and the title cut, it didn't have the
same spark of Marlene or Left of Centre. (speaking of that last cut, I
wish suzanne would team up with Joe Jackson again. he's another artist
who does whatever he wants in a unique, welcoming sort of manner, and his
piano solo on LoC adds a lot to the track.) Therefore, I picked up the
debut LP in March of '88, and played it and Joni Mitchell's "Hissing of
Summer Lawns" LP incessantly for about a year. (To this day, those 2 LPs
plus Solitude Standing are the albums I'd want to take with me on a
desert island.)
DoOH wasn't as striking as the first 2, but it had its moments,
especially "predictions" with that Jaco-like fretless bass and Fairlight
textures. 99.9F, however, kept a good balance going between the techno
tracks, the pop, and the ol' fashioned folk. However, that first album
still holds a certain key in my heart of hearts. It and only a few other
albums (SS, several Mitchell LPs, and Rickie Lee Jones' "Pirates") has a
certain special something, a sense of wonder, humanity, and social
commentary unique in the digital age.
On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, beach house tiki god wrote:
>
Well, my relationship wasn't all that Suzanne-related (sure sign of
impending trouble, I guess). But when it was over and I was writing my
ex-gf my 40-page postmortem, I was tempted to quote from "Neighborhood
Girls": "I've been out for a while/but I'll back in a bit/I am just
walking through the smoke/finding out if this is it." I didn't, however.
In retrospect, I guess I'd have to say that "The Queen and the Soldier"
isn't a very auspicious song to start out a relationship with. I think I
ended up being the Soldier that time.
-- Bob, who thinks CNN should have played "In the Eye" during coverage of
the OJ verdict
I guess I have to confess that my first Suzanne Vega song was Luka, but I
was only twelve at the time. I don't really remember how I got into her music
but I know that by my thirteenth birthday I had both her albums and was very
excited that my birthday present was front row seat tickets to see her that
very night! I hadn't even known she was playing.
So I entered my teenage years convinced that Ms. Vega had made
eye contact with *ME* right during Tom's Diner, the show's opener. [Hey Suzanne,you remember the little kid in the cast, don't you?] I still have the T-shirt
from that show (I think the ticket stub got lost in a move somwhere) though
needless to say it doesn't fit anymore. If I ever have kids, they will be the
coolest dressed little tykes around.
David
Hi folks!
I probably had seen the video of 'Marlene on the Wall' on some chart show
back in 1985, but the first concious experience happened couple of years
later, in November 1987. I was sitting in a small cafe near the Central
Railway Station of Helsinki, Finland. It was 7 a.m., and I had just spent
a sleepless night in train, I was having my coffee, when I hear Suzanne's
song on the radio. No, it was not 'Tom's Diner', it was 'Ironbound/Fancy
Poultry'. That really hit the spot. Couple of weeks later I had bought the
first two albums and I have been her fan ever since. I have seen Suzanne
in a Concert in Helsinki 1990, and I am looking forward to see her here
again in the future.
Ari
---
i've been on this mailing list for
the music hits me in such a personal
the recent discussion regarding how
it was 1986
but i was struck by "left of center" and
today, i struggle with expression
with suzanne's music
as i continued working at the record store
i didnt stay much longer there
i went about my life
i bought solitude standing as soon as it was released
and then luka...
i was used to her music exploring pieces of
my initial reactions to the rest of the album
when her tour was due to hit san francisco in
a few days before the concert
time went on
several months ago
it's a good thing that peter doesnt often ask me how i feel
-------
it took me a long time this morning to put this
-diana
cass@netcom.com diana@aol.com
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From: Robert King
To: undertow@serv1.law.emory.edu
Subject: A decade of Suzanne!
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:36:05 -0700
To: undertow@serv1.law.emory.edu
From: richards@teleport.com (Eric/Susan Richards)
Subject: Re: A decade of Suzanne!
>you remember where you were when you first heard her?
>I can hardly wait.
// Eric J. Richards
// richards@teleport.com PGP: finger -l richards@teleport.com //\/
\\_______________________________________________________________\\/
From: rwalters@zeh2.law.emory.edu (Rob Walters)
te: Wed, 11 Oct 95 18:04:18 CDT
To: undertow@law.emory.edu
Subject: First hearing Suzanne
rwalters@lafayette.unocal.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 19:37:11 -0700
To: undertow@law.emory.edu
From: "David N. Levy"
Subject: First time heard Suzanne.
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:51:02 -0400
From: beach house tiki god
To: undertow@law.emory.edu
Subject: the first time
>you remember where you were when you first heard her?
>the first time (yes, call me a late bloomer) and wrote in my diary: "I
>want to love a young woman who I don't understand. Your highness, your
>ways are very strange."
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:45:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ronald K Schmidt
To: undertow@law.emory.edu
Subject: the first time
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:55:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert King
To: beach house tiki god
Cc: undertow@law.emory.edu
Subject: Suzanne songs during breakups
> this is getting weirder. i didn't write that in my diary (didn't have a
> diary to write in), but the same thing happened to me: fell in love for
> the first time, associated those lines with the feelings i felt, and
> integrated the album very much into that relationship. so much so that
> i couldn't listen to the album for at least a year after said
> relationship went sour. the fact that i could listen to it again was a
> measure of my healing.
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:59:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: DAHURLEY@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Subject: First time
To: undertow@law.emory.edu
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:05:55 +0200 (EET)
From: Ari Kosonen
Subject: First time heard Suzanne
To: undertow@law.emory.edu
Ari Kosonen
Dept. of Computer Science, Joensuu University, Finland
email: akosone@cs.joensuu.fi
From: cass@netcom.com (Cassandra)
Subject: Re: the first time
To: cass@netcom.com (Cassandra)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:11:19 -0700 (PDT)
Cc: undertow@law.emory.edu
hmm
nearly two years now
i guess
but i've been fairly quiet
place
so as it is discussed and dissected
i can watch
but not participate
and when
someone was introduced to the music
compels me to speak
though
i was working in a record store
opened the "pretty in pink" soundtrack to play in the store
i fancied myself a smiths fan at the time
and that was my motivation
immediately went to the back of the store
found the self-titled album
put it on the turntable (remember those?)
and was lost for several hours
listening to the stories contained
again and again
as i did then
and often found that songs, stories or poems
said things in eloquent ways
that eluded me
i had found a treasure box of words
and stories
that could speak for me
if someone were to ask how i felt
(often a dreadful question)
i often had to go retrieve the album from the racks
as other, more "enlightened" employees had reshelved it
(along with rem, joe jackson and the smiths)
favoring instead, def leppard, michael jackson and the like
for our in store play
a wholly unpleasant place
but my benefit from that job had been the discovery
of this music
which at the time included
an abusive relationship
(i was in the middle of the second year of what
would end up being five)
sat alone in my car to listen
it was raining outside
i forced myself to not look at the lyric sheet
wanting to hear the pieces first
before dissecting them in my mind
tom's diner... another story.. i smiled at it's sweetness
complex and yet simple... unique
well there it was... these words
about a youngster, of course
but echoing so closely
my existence, my emotions (or lack of them)
i was shocked
my brain and my existence
but not so clearly
in simple words
explaining how i lived
how i moved from day to day
are lost on me today
although now, i also treasure gypsy, language
and the rest of the album
august of that year
i clandestinely purchased tickets
with my friend john
the only person who didnt let me push him away
as i was shrouded in this abusive relationship
my boyfriend found out about it
and john attended the concert on his own
my opportunity to be with others who
listened to her music
and maybe understood things the way i did, lost
i left california for the east coast
days of open hand came out
99.9 came out
tired of sleeping... institution green
in liverpool... there was always a song that
spoke to me
9 years after my introduction to her music
i got on a train heading towards boston
met my friend, peter, at the station
got in his car and off we went to vermont
walked into a festival
and i sat on a hill and listened to her sing and talk
i dont think i could have told him then
experience into words
i apologize for the length
and i thank you for listening
http://frostbite.umd.edu/~cass/
Hugo G. Westerlund <Hugo.Westerlund@ipm.ki.se>