Suzanne Vega

Subj: Good News, Bad News
Date: 96-09-04 20:11:47 EDT
From: EricS10332@aol.com
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Hi Everyone,

Here's the latest:

Some bad news to break to those of you in the UK . The album is being released in the UK in January instead of now. It has to do with marketing and promotion schedules of the record company. They really want to give it a major push and just feel that early next year will be clearer for that than this Fall. Suzanne's management had no say in the matter, and wants everyone to know that they hope this doesn't inconvenience them. You can call A&M in London to complain if you like. Or, just buy the record through one of the links to the online record shops on our website - both are reputable businesses - available on the 10th.

More soon,

Eric

Subj: digipack
Date: 96-09-10 20:42:57 EDT
From: algranti@club-internet.fr (David Algranti)
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Like I had found a promo copy of NOOD two days ago I wasn't on such a hurry to buy the album today, so I didn't. But a French friend from the list (come on, delurk!) told me he found a digipack version of the album. Did anyone know about that?
Anyway I'll check tomorrow and let you know.

David.

Subj: Nine Objects in New Zealand...
Date: 96-09-11 00:24:50 EDT
From: r.street@auckland.ac.nz (Russell Street)
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Hello to anyone else in New Zealand...

According to the record store I just visited, the NZ release date is 18th October. (The distributor is Polygram, if you want to bug them.)

Are there any plans for an Australia/NZ tour?

Russell
(lurking in anticipation)

Subj: Re: digipack
Date: 96-09-11 07:48:42 EDT
From: bonnefoy@ensta.fr (David Bonnefoy-Cudraz)
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David Algranti wrote:
>
> Like I had found a promo copy of NOOD two days ago I wasn't on such a hurry
> to buy the album today, so I didn't. But a French friend from the list (come
> on, delurk!) told me he found a digipack version of the album. Did anyone
> know about that?
> Anyway I'll check tomorrow and let you know.
>
> David.

About the digipack : I found it yesterday in a shop called Fnac in Paris. Fnac is a chain of shops selling records, books , audio and video. I think it is (at least in France) a Fnac exclusive because there was a sticker : "Digipack Fnac collector edition". The number on the disk is 540 583-2 and on the box there is LC 0485 and PY 900.

OK now I am going to take a deep breath, try to slow down my heart a bit and I may try and send a few more comment when I am more quiet.

bye,

David B.

Subj: Different versions of NOOD?
Date: 96-09-11 09:04:25 EDT
From: nael@worldnet.fr (Nael)
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David B wrote :

> About the digipack : I found it yesterday in a shop called Fnac in
>Paris. Fnac is a chain of shops selling records, books , audio and
>video. I think it is (at least in France) a Fnac exclusive because there
>was a sticker : "Digipack Fnac collector edition". The number on the
>disk is 540 583-2 and on the box there is LC 0485 and PY 900.

I bought this digipack version in a Fnac too, and I wondered if this version could be found anywhere else. Actually, I haven't seen any other version yet, and I'd like to know how the album is all over the world.

One more thing : I own two different versions of 99.9 F° (a US one with 12 songs and a French one with 13 songs - including "Private Goes Public"). Is it the same for "Nine Objects..." somewhere or other? Did anyone buy this album with more (or less) than 12 tracks?

Nael K.

Subj: Re: Different versions of NOOD?
Date: 96-09-11 12:31:57 EDT
From: algranti@club-internet.fr (David Algranti)
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>> About the digipack : I found it yesterday in a shop called Fnac in
>>Paris. Fnac is a chain of shops selling records, books , audio and
>>video. I think it is (at least in France) a Fnac exclusive because there
>>was a sticker : "Digipack Fnac collector edition". The number on the
>>disk is 540 583-2 and on the box there is LC 0485 and PY 900.
>
>I bought this digipack version in a Fnac too, and I wondered if this version
>could be found anywhere else. Actually, I haven't seen any other version
>yet, and I'd like to know how the album is all over the world.

I rushed to the Fnac today. (for Nael: it seems indeed to be a Fnac exclusive but you can find the normal edition in other stores like Virgin). But don't worry undertowers, this digipack is nothing special, it's a two-fold cardboard packaging, with the normal front and back covers, and when you open it you see the picture of Suzanne with apples, on an armchair, so that's the only photo that is special (it's only bigger than the same one at the end of the booklet). The CD itself is probably the normal one, not a picture disc or anything. The first cardboard page is a double one and inside there is the booklet (I hope you can picture what I mean). I bet it's the very same booklet as in the normal CD too, except that it also includes a French translation of the lyrics. I hope Suzanne will later release a real digipack, the one for 99.9F is so beautiful!

David A.

Subj: Liner Notes...
Date: 96-09-11 17:46:34 EDT
From: chduryea@husc.harvard.edu (Christopher Duryea)
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Was I the only one who noticed that under "special thanks" in the liner notes of NOOD, SV mentions Undertow? Now, I'm just a lurker here, but I still thought that was pretty cool.

chd

Subj: A brief thought on NOOD
Date: 96-09-11 18:16:00 EDT
From: Unique212@aol.com
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Hi there,

Isn't it interesting that Suzanne is one of the few songwriters who handles writing in 3/4 or 6/4 or 6/8 time so well? Or swing-time, for that matter?

U212

Subj: '9OOD' released Sept 6
Date: 96-09-12 08:53:40 EDT
From: juspuk@propus.tkk.utu.fi (Pukkila Jussi)
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hello everyone,

(my first ever message to undertow with three topics..)

I just thought you'd like to know that here in Turku, Finland we have been lucky enough to listen to the new album since last Friday (sept 6). I guess the release dates don't matter much here. The same happened to REM and Rush as well - I think they had the same release date (Sept 9). Has anyone seen/bought '9OOD' even earlier?

jussi p
(that is my name :)

Subj: Baltimore bound!
Date: 96-09-26 11:39:35 EDT
From: bobking@gate.net (Robert King)
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[ s n i p ]

Has anyone seen a limited edition to 9OOD? I remember that the 99.9F limiteds seemed to pop up in all the mall stores a year after the album came out, as though someone were emptying a warehouse.

Subj: Re: Baltimore bound!
Date: 96-09-26 12:01:21 EDT
From: rwalters@lafayette.unocal.com (Rob Walters)
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Hello everyone,

The elusive, and apparently unemployed? Bob King wrote:

>Has anyone seen a limited edition to 9OOD?

I don't think they've even made one yet. It's not on any list of new releases, etc. that I've heard of. Perhaps they'll do one later? (if the regular edition does OK, I would guess)

>I remember that the 99.9F
>limiteds seemed to pop up in all the mall stores a year after the album
>came out, as though someone were emptying a warehouse.

Yes, but try finding one now! Impossible, unless you get lucky and find it used somewhere. I'm glad I got mine when I did.

-Rob

Subj: Sales and other biscuits
Date: 96-09-26 12:29:53 EDT
From: Keith.Sawyer@FMR.Com (Sawyer, Keith)
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A quick check of SoundScan shows that last week 9OoD debuted at #92 (right below Weird Al Yankovic's latest). Not exactly a great number, I was hoping for at least top 50. I'm sure A&M is not overjoyed, either. Oh well. :(

On a more upbeat note, my personal enjoyment of the new one deepens ... I've found the charms of World Before Columbus irresistable, and Honeymoon Suite draws a chuckle from me upon every listen. My initial picks of Headshots and Casual Match are both holding up strong, as well. WBC is an instant all-timer - on my list of Top 5 Suzy songs! Going off the subject here, any other Undertowers out there that like 'Pilgrimage' as much as I do?

The album is reviewed on-line at mrshowbiz.com - a '66', which is not exactly high praise. I did enjoy the overly florid Spin review, though - it seems the writer was more interested in impressing with his style than actually commenting on the album :)

keith
keith.sawyer@fmr.com

Subj: Re: ltd edition, sales, etc
Date: 96-09-26 15:36:04 EDT
From: reynhout@milkcrate.com (D Andrew Reynhout)
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Rob Walters wrote:
>
> Bob King wrote:
> >
> >Has anyone seen a limited edition to 9OOD?
>
> I don't think they've even made one yet. It's not on any list of new
> releases, etc. that I've heard of. Perhaps they'll do one later? (if
> the regular edition does OK, I would guess)

Is the limited edition the same as the promo copy? Cardboard hand-assembled packaging with some handwritten lyrics in the middle? If so, those cool packages are typically put out by the label on or before the street date of the record. They're sent to radio/press/retail basically for the purpose of making those people feel important enough to the label that they do something to help the record. Occasionally it's earnest. :-)

Andrew

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Subj: Re: Hello and thanks
Date: 96-09-28 22:38:51 EDT
From: Unique212@aol.com
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Hi,

A newly-delurked Undertower, Paul Burden from the UK, writes:

<< I'll have to listen a bit more before making any intelligent contribution to the discussion but my first impression is of the warmth of the production. I've always thought the sound on SV's recordings a bit clinical, but 9OOD just reaches out of the speakers and hugs you!>>

And have you noticed the careful spacing of all the instruments? This is one of those albums that really demands to be listened to in stereo, as I found out after initially playing it through a high-quality tube (valve, you Brits would say) guitar amplifier with only one speaker and then playing it through stereo speakers. Some instruments are panned hard left and right, others are more in the center. When SV harmonizes with herself, it is a real second track and not just studio trickery (notice that the phrasings don't exactly match on certain words). Some of the background keyboards sort of sneak up on you in several tunes, one case in point being that little "da DA da da" riff in the chorus of "Casual Match." They have accomplished something almost impossible if not oxymoronic -- subtle percussion.

Just a thought,

U212

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